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Gary and I during the "Spamalot" tour |
So tell me, how did you find yourself in "1776?" You were in the first national tour, right?
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Two months into the tour, the man who was playing Rutledge had a breakdown on stage. He was unable to continue in the role. The company manager came to my dressing room after the show asking if I knew the part. In those days there were no rules about rehearsing understudies… I knew the part but hadn’t been rehearsed. I took over the role of Rutledge the next day. Now, "Molasses To Rum" in those days had an electrifying effect on the audiences. A song dealing with slavery was about as rare as hen’s teeth. One night, during the applause at the end of the number, a man came down the aisle and to the edge of the stage and was whistling and cheering. Turned out it was Sherman Edwards, the writer of the show. I was shaking like a leaf. Reid Shelton, who was in the show with me, turned to me and said, 'Well, if you never do it again, you did it tonight.' I was 24 years old.
When the guys in the original cast went to make the movie in Hollywood I was put into it on Broadway, where I played Rutledge for about eight months. it was such an ensemble, that everyone knew everyone else's role. Guys went in and out of different parts all the time.
Did you have any historians come and talk to you guys about the actual events in 1776?
We weren't visited by any scholars or dramaturges; it wasn't done back then. I did research on my own and had conversations with the director about my character’s place in history. There were actually two Rutledges, Edward and John. While I was in the show, there was a Sotheby’s auction of Revolutionary War documents... letters of George Washington and various papers from the signers of the Declaration. I went to the auction and bid on a document signed by Edward Rutledge and I bought it. I still have it, framed so you can see both sides of the letter. Boring document, but it was in Rutledge's hand. Playing the role was thrilling. Audiences responded so strongly to the show and in particular to "Molasses To Rum." The song made your life better… it was a very rare song about a rarely explored subject. The show has such a feeling of immediacy, the audience gets caught up in the drama. Even though we all know how it turns out, you start doubting whether or not the Declaration is going to happen. The founding fathers had a kind of blind genius. People like Adams knew where we were going but had no idea how or if we'd get there.
Since you love the show so much, would you like to do it again? I think you'd be an amazing Ben Franklin!
I’d love to play Franklin. I love the part of Adams but never wanted to play it. Mainly because I knew I wasn't short enough! But it works for the part for him to be a small man; he's a little bantam rooster. Adams is the driving force; he’s the motor of the show. I worked with William Daniels in the show years later. He embraced the fact that Adams is 'obnoxious and disliked.' It was important to the character and the story that he not care about that... and of course the audience finds him obnoxious and disliked but at the end find themselves in tears and loving the man.
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